
Frequently Asked Questions
What are the advantages of a Gerotor pump
over a spur gear design?
Smooth Pumping
Action - Each rotor revolves around it's own center with
no inherent imbalance. Gradual change in pumping pockets reduces pressure
ripples.
Less Aeration
of Oil - Gerotor cavities fill over
180° of shaft rotation, causing smooth flow of oil, reducing aeration
of the oil.
High Volumetric
Efficiency - Gerotor pumps self prime and efficiencies often
exceed 95%. Large inlet ports are active for over 180° of shaft
rotation providing superior fill.
Long Life
- Gerotor pumps have less moving parts, more bearing surface, and steel
on steel oil flow path significantly reduces wear. Gear pumps have a
steel gear with aluminum housing that wears creating an internal leak
path. The relative RPM between inner and outer rotors, on a gerotor
pump, is 600 RPM at 3000 shaft RPM resulting in less wear between the
pumping sections.
Better Suction
- While Gerotor inlet ports are active for more than 180° of shaft
rotation, spur gear pumps have a displacement or volume change about
every 7° of rotation. The 180° of port opening on a Gerotor
pump gives superior fill capacity and suction.
Pump cavitation:
What causes it?
Oil pressure
is the result of several things. First, the pump must have an adequate
supply of oil at the inlet side. Secondly, the pump must have the capacity
to pump enough oil to overcome the "leaks" inside the engine
and develop pressure. These "leaks" are due to bearing clearances,
lifter bore clearances and top end oiling. If the supply of oil to the
inlet side is not adequate due to small hose and fitting sizes, anywhere
in the inlet hose, the pump cannot fill each chamber completely on each
pumping event and the pump "cavitates", or works at less than
maximum efficiency. Please note that the hose or fitting size is really
the I.D. size of the hose or fitting. Some industrial hoses and fittings
use the same thread sizes and wrenches, but the hole "I.D."
is smaller than a comparable "AN" or high-performance fitting
such as "EarlØs Performance Products" fittings. Typically,
a small inlet hose size will cause the engine to see a loss in pressure
at higher RPMs.
Can I run a Wet Sump engine and create
vacuum in the crankcase?
In Wet Sump applications
using PetersonØs Wet-Vac§ external pump or other manufacturer's vacuum
pumps to create a vacuum in the engine, you will notice that as the
vacuum increases, the oil pressure will decrease. This is the result
of the pump having to suck the oil out of the pan, and in doing so,
overcome the vacuum in the pan. As the vacuum increases, the force necessary
to suck the oil from the pan increases and the pump is unable to completely
fill on each pumping action, causing pump cavitation. Since the pump
is pumping with less efficiency, due to the vacuum, the oil pressure
decreases.
Wet sump or dry sump?
A Dry Sump system
is preferable if the rules and budget allow a dry sump system. Some
divisions only allow wet sump engines, and in that case, a Peterson
External Wet Sump pump can provide externally adjustable pressure, more
volume by adjusting pump speeds and more uniform timing by taking the
pump drive off of the distributor. A great choice for those instances
where you need to use a wet sump pump. Dry sump systems give you the
ability to lower the engine in the chassis, due to a shallower pan configuration,
control of windage and have a more positive supply of oil to the pump.
Other advantages include: Externally adjustable oil pressure, the ability
to speed up or slow down the pump, using different pulley and belt configurations,
enabling the pump output to fit the need of the engine.
How do I choose the right sized pump for
my application? 3, 4, or 5 stages?
In
modern racing engines, control of windage (oil in suspension inside
the engine) is one of the best ways to gain usable power. Evacuation
of the crankcase can be better accomplished using multiple scavenge
sections. All Peterson Dry Sump pumps, along with our competitors, use
one pressure and 2, 3, or 4 scavenge stages. We have found that the
Peterson 4 stage pump is as efficient as most 5 stage gear pumps, because
of PetersonØs Gerotor design. Typically, 3 stage pumps scavenge with
2 pickup points in the pan, 4 stage scavenge with 2 pickup points in
the pan and one pickup out of the lifter valley. 5 stage pumps scavenge
with 3 pickup points in the pan and one pickup out of the lifter valley.
Most pump manufacturers offer different size stages which pump more
or less volume per rotation. Typically, the longer the section - the
more volume
What is the torque specification on the
draw rods?
The
draw rods on Peterson pumps should be tourqed to 80 in lbs. Notice it
is in inch pounds not foot pounds. These should be checked on a regular
basis as part of the bolt check on the car.
Can I cap off an unused stage or tie two
stages together?
No.
Capping off an unused stage will result in pump damage and possible
engine damage due to pump failure. The gerotor section needs oil for
lubrication of the rotating aseembly. Also you may not "tee"
two lines together as this can result in oil not being scavenged correctly.
Each scavenge stage needs to have its own separate line running to the
engine.
Can I use a check valve in the oil feed
line to keep oil from running back to the engine when not in use?
No.
A check valve in the feed line creates a restriction causing cavitation
in the pump. If the car has sat use a drill to spin the pump before
firing the engine. This will prime the pump and ensure that any oil
that has gravity fed out of the tank will be returned and it will have
a good supply.
Can I just weld a fitting to the side
of the pan or use the drain plug for a feed?
No. A proper pickup is needed in the
pan which will be a tube to a box with an open bottom or a tube with
an opening along the bottom. The problem with a fitting welded in the
side of the pan is it can become uncovered and suck air starving the
pump and ultimately your engine of oil. Using the drain plug is not
good either because it can also become uncovered in the course of a
race. It can also create a vortex effect which can hamper proper scavenging
of the oil.
Drives
Oil Pump Drive Speeds
Peterson oil pumps are a positive
displacement pump as are most of our competitors pumps. This means that
if you turn the pump slower it pumps less volumeand if you turn it faster
it pumps more volume. Most pumps have a maximum RPM that you can turn
them. Typically, pumps turn from 50% of engine speed, as is the case
of cam driven pumps, to 57% of engine speed in the case of our standard
belt driven pumps. However, ratios of up to 70% have been used. Peterson
Fluid Systems produces pulleys of different sizes (tooth count) so that
the pump speed can be adjusted to a praticular engine. Ideally the pump
will turn just fast enough to satisfy the engine need and keep the oil
pressure up without the need of bypassing oil. It takes horsepower to
drive a pump andthe faster you turn it, the more volume it pumps and
the more horsepower it takes. It doesnt make sense to pump volume that
goes through the relief valve. On small displacment engines with less
oil need, it is not uncommon to slow the pump to 45% of engine speed.
If you know what your engine requirements are, in GPM of oil, our tech
people can help you determine a pump speed, for Peterson pumps, that
will not rob horsepower.
HTD

HTD
vs. Gilmer
Gilmer or cog belts are the tried and true belts used
to drive dry sump oil pumps and other engine accessories. HTD (High
Tourqe Drive) belts offer deeper tooth engagment into the pulley,
making them capable of carrying more load. These are useful in more
severe conditions. Peterson provides pulleys, belts and drives of
both types.
How
tight does the belt need to be?
Unlike v-belts or serpentine style belts, toothed
belts like HTD and Gilmer do not need to be overly tight. The teeth
on the belt are doing the work instead of friction. A good rule
is that you should be able to turn the belt 90º and see the teeth
on the belt. Do nto be alarmed if it appears that belt seems to
be bouncing or flapping while the engine is running. If you over
tighten these style belts they can walk off the pulley or cause
premature wear to your pulleys.
Petersons filter elements
are rated in micron sizes, reflecting the size of particle that will
pass through the filter screen. The larger the micron size, the larger
the particle that will pass through the screen. One micron equals
.0000394 inches. The following is the micron particle size for Peterson
filters:
| Micron Size |
Particle Size |
| 45 Micron |
.0018 inches |
| 60 Micron |
.0023 inches |
| 75 Micron |
.0029 inches |
| 100 Micron |
.0039 inches |
How full to fill them
Peterson
Oil tanks are rated in gallons of total capacity. A good rule of thumb
is to run the tank about 2/3 full. When you first fill the tank, make
a dipstick using a wood dowel or use a tape measure down through the
cap and get a measurment as you put in each quart of oil. This can
then be used to check the oil level on race night. After starting
the engine, recheck the level and add oil as necessary to get about
2/3 full. If you find that you are blowing oil out of the breather,
try lowering the level in the tank by about a quart. Blowing oil is
often the result of the tank being too full.
Custom Tank Orders
Peterson
is able to create tanks for a wide variety of applications. If you
are interested in having a custom tank made please contact our sales
department at (800) 926-7867. Unfortunately we cannot give you a quote
on the tank until we have received a drawing on how you need the tank
built. We have a tank build sheet to assist you with this process.
Once the drawing is received we will be able to quote you a price.
Anything added after this will change the price so we will need to
work you up a new quote in that instance.
Breather Cans
When
plumbing in a breather can, to breath the engine, you should use at
least a - 12 AN hose. The hose should run slightly up hill to the can
so that any oil reaching the hose can run back down the hose to the
tank. Be sure that the hose does not have any dips where oil can accumalate.
Remember-
The air coming from the oil tank to the breather is a result of having
multiple scavenge sections which pump a lot of air from the engine.
If the breather hose is too small, the velocity of the air will increase
over what it would be with a larger hose. This increase in velocity
will tend to carry more oil droplets to the breather can. This is why
a larer hose is better.
AN Thread Sizes
AN (Army-Navy)
sizes were established by the aircraft industry and designate the outside
diameter of rigid tubing that the corresponding fittings are used with.
Each dash size equals 1/16 of an inch. (ie -8 AN = 8 x 1/16" =
1/2" OD of the metal tube) Each standard AN size has its own standard
thread size. Since the tube sizes do not equate with the hose sizes,
due to the variation in wall thickness, the ID of the hose and tubes
are not the same. See the chart below for Earls Perform O' Flex hose
and AN sizes.
|
AN Size |
Tube OD |
Thread Size |
Hose ID |
|
-4 |
1/4" |
7/16-20 |
7/32" |
|
-6 |
3/8" |
9/16-18 |
11/32" |
|
-8 |
1/2" |
3/4-16 |
7/16" |
|
-10 |
5/8" |
7/8-14 |
9/16" |
|
-12 |
3/4" |
1 1/16-12 |
11/16" |
|
-16 |
1" |
1 5/16-12 |
7/8" |
|
-20 |
1 1/4" |
1 5/8-12 |
1 1/8" |
*Above listed hose sizes reflect sizes published by Earl's Performance
Products for their Perform O' Flex hose. Hoses from other manufacturers
and hoses with teflon liners may differ in size
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